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Starting Tank set-up

1:32 pm, March 28, 2017 Hi, here is my Hammer/Chaos, Weaken/Block build. I am wondering if I am not too much weakens. The idea is to: Trucker engage, Molten Steel Escalation x4, Grip Whip, Reality Fracture, Mo [..] View

Tank Setup

11:32 pm, March 11, 2017 Evening, I am looking for a setup with the tanking woodcutter to run NM Polaris for BB farm for my other gear and was wondering if I can get a setup or advice on gearing it this way. If it becomes to [..] View

How to gear from 10.0.0 to 10.9.5

11:32 pm, March 10, 2017 The goal of this thread is to provide a short guide on how to gear for PVE in the beginning of endgame, before getting to aegis content, without using too many Mark of the Pantheon, Black Bullions and [..] View

Duo/Solo Hammer Block Build

12:32 pm, March 6, 2017 Hello I am looking for a good Hammer/something build that I can use to survive PvE stuff. I don't play alone, I normally play with my partner who uses a DPS Blood Magic build and I tank using a Bloc [..] View

Box’s 1-size-fits-all tank build

12:32 pm, March 6, 2017 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...eqbm4qeYY/edit BOX’S 1-SIZE-FITS-ALL TANK BUILD Hey Guys it’s Box again! Ever wanted to learn the role of the most sought after role but [..] View

Various ideas about some signets and abilities changes

11:32 pm, February 17, 2017 Good morning/evening, Me and my friends are doing a lot of PvP and PvE and we always try new changes and stuff regarding Abilities and Signets, i would like to make the following suggestions regardin [..] View

Do I benefit from Hammer skills when using blade torrent?

11:32 pm, February 16, 2017 I noticed that the Hammer Thick Skin skill reduces damage if I block, but I'm not sure if this works while I am using blade torrent. I know active abilities use the current weapon as the baseline for [..] View

Hammer / Chaos - solo deck built around blocking >> does that work ?

12:32 pm, February 3, 2017 Hey guys, First try at building a deck by myself from scratch. The idea is to - use blocking (hammer baby) - use the fact that I have a lot of health ( several abilities give a result proportional [..] View

Need pointers for Shambala healing

11:32 pm, January 23, 2017 I don't PvP a lot, I'll admit. But I have a lot of fun when I do PvP, and I tend to go heals unless my group is top-heavy with healers. I spend more time in Fusang than anywhere else, and in there I [..] View

Scenario Glyph selection with/without woodcutter:

12:32 pm, December 30, 2016 Recently, I have learned hit is not as essential in scenarios (idiot me). That made me doubt all my stats selection. I wonder if you could give me some advice. I use this chaos/blood build (and vari [..] View

Did i just ruin my character for pvp?

12:32 pm, December 6, 2016 i just raised my talisam skills to 11 because i had the extra points. i had assumed the "understanding equal footing" thread was oudated, having the cap of resists before other stats were [..] View

Def or Block for Tanking?

12:32 pm, November 18, 2016 I've been searching these forums for about an hour trying to find a definitive answer on which stat is best for tanking end game, but most info is from 2012/13 and feels outdated. I'm really enjoying [..] View

Next deck - chaos/blade tank or something else

11:32 pm, November 7, 2016 Hi guys, I'm very satisfied with my current build for solo (except the quantum brace, but tbh it's the only Aux I have right now so it'll do).http://www.tsw-builder.com/#41v42017...10332143114a21 No [..] View

New Hammer/Chaos Tank Questions

11:32 pm, November 3, 2016 Hello there! I just recently started the game less than a week ago. I've been looking through the various tank guides on this website as well as others and have a general idea how I want to go about [..] View

Tank Woodcutter's Talisman in PVP

1:32 pm, September 25, 2016 Hi. I have come up with a simple survival/bullet sponge gear setup that makes tanking WC (Regret) procs easy to manage. This is sort of a proof of concept for me, since i see a lot of people regard [..] View

NM group scenarios builds & tactics

1:32 pm, September 2, 2016 hi the tactic i always use in NM group is "1 camp" with tank, healer, 3 dps - however i was told that nowdays people do them like elite groups - all 5 members are dps (but in NM use some def [..] View

I need help with stats for DPS build

12:32 am, August 18, 2016 I admit it: I've never fully understood my stats. I want to make the best DPS build I can, and am asking for your help. I have three purple gear and the rest blue, and now realize I concentrated too m [..] View

Few Tips and Tricks for better Gaming Performance.

1:32 pm, August 12, 2016 Fusang, and other populated elements of the game, can be a downer for some peoples. I hear complaints about poor FPS, and general lag. I was one of those who suffered bad performance, and I started to [..] View

Gear Reuse with 10.9.5

12:32 am, August 4, 2016 While no longer critical as it was when fuses were rare, I still would like to reuse gear if possible between my dps, tank, leach, and solo builds. I have come up with the following design to re-glyp [..] View

Clearing the Path - What Am I Missing?

1:32 pm, July 28, 2016 I've seen it come up here and there, forever, about Clearing the Path (CtP) being awesome. I now have four chars who currently use a Blade, and I'd love them all to have unique and characterful fight [..] View

Jagour's El Dorado Build Guide (v1.15)

12:32 am, July 28, 2016 Hey all, I've noticed a decent amount of unfamiliar faces in ED recently so I decided to put together some of my better builds that each serve a very valuable spot on any team. With each you'll find [..] View

Newbie progression into endgame.

12:32 am, July 15, 2016 Hello. I am new. There's undoubtedly hundreds of these threads lying around here, but with the recent meta change due to passive/elite revamp, i will go ahead and ask these questions again on behalf [..] View

How much Block recommended in NM?

12:32 am, July 14, 2016 When I get back home after vacation I plan to re-glyph my 10.9-5.5 gear since it's best before date has passed. With this I also plan to finish my tank gear but how much block are recommended nowada [..] View

Working on a Woodcutter's tank build

1:32 pm, July 7, 2016 Hi, I am currently trying to put together a tanking build using the woodcutters tanking neck featuring Defense and high mitigation. For the woodcutter effect I am wondering whether 300 block or evade [..] View

Need help with my deck and glyphs, AR/Shotty DPS

12:32 am, July 1, 2016 Hi all, so, I need help! A word of forewarning: I will not know the acronyms of abilities, or their effects, off by heart. I'm using AR/Shotgun combo, and usually play through content with only my par [..] View

Afk in fusang due to event

12:32 am, June 30, 2016 Two hours into the event I have already counted 3 afk players (funnily enough the same faction) camped out in the centre, sitting down in shrubbery of the pyramids waiting for the Golem. This may or [..] View

Build inspection suggestion discussion

12:32 am, June 28, 2016 Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodwench For groups, I'd like to be able to inspect the passives, for me I don't care so much about the active build. I'd also like to see [..] View

Someone's GREAT idea

12:32 am, June 26, 2016 Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodwench For groups, I'd like to be able to inspect the passives, for me I don't care so much about the active build. I'd also like to see [..] View

Coming back after three years

1:32 pm, June 21, 2016 Hey folks, I am coming back to the game after a three year absence. I was curious if Cirittys talisman setup for tanks is still valid in the 10.9 world or is the new meta adding glyphs other than Bloc [..] View

The curves of TSW

1:32 pm, June 15, 2016 Since I’ve posted a few curve fittings to some of the known rating to chance formulae in the game, I figured it might not be a bad idea to put them all in one thread. It will also be easier [..] View

Is it even possible to hold agro as a QL10 tank in elites with QL10.9 dps?

1:32 pm, May 15, 2016 I just started getting into to elites. People say that you can do elites in 10B and I've seen some people say you can do them in QL9B. No I mostly do solo content so, I don't have super 10.9 max gear, [..] View

Late game Dungeon Glyphs

12:32 am, May 13, 2016 I am currently building my custom late game DPS/Tank gear, what kind of glyphs should I have for my talismans? My DPS is DABS or shotgun/Elementalism SF, my tank build is a classic block blade hammer [..] View

Signets of Resilience vs. Reinforcement vs. Order

1:32 pm, April 17, 2016 My thoughts on these tanking signets...Info Box Signet of Resilience (epic) When you evade/glance/block, you get +150 phys and mag protection for 4 seconds, up to +450. No cd. Signet of Reinforcement [..] View

Reusable Talisman draft

12:32 am, April 5, 2016 Hi all. I am gearing up atm and trying to reuse as many talismans as possible. After reading lots of guides this is my first draft for the major roles (Solo, DPS, Tank, Leech). Everything calculate [..] View

Optimal Generic Tanking Glyphs?

1:32 pm, April 3, 2016 I've heard a lot of different stuff regarding tank gearing, and since the seemingly most popular tanking guide thread is from 2013 with only 10.4.4 gear I figured I'd double check before building my g [..] View

PvP Weakness Update - Discuss

12:32 am, April 3, 2016 Strangely enough no thread about this has popped up, so I thought I'd start one. Here we will discuss the changes to PvP weaknesses, specifically the following: Exposed: Each stack will now also redu [..] View

Update Notes Issue #14: Call of the Nameless - Game Update 1.14

12:32 am, April 1, 2016 NEWIssue #14: Call of the Nameless is now out! Six all-new main missions and assorted side missions await in the sands of Egypt. This issue is available from the item store and may be purchased with [..] View

Solo Impair Build - Advice/Critique

11:32 pm, March 10, 2016 It's been a while since I played, and I'm trying to get a feel for building again. I've been toying with a hammer-based impair build. Mostly I'm doing solo play. Here's what I've got so far:Weapons [..] View

Tanking Build Questions?

11:32 pm, March 1, 2016 Hi guys. I played a little secret world a while ago closer to when it first released but quickly got involved in another game at the time and now I just reinstalled because I wanted to try this again. [..] View

[Leechtank] High Efficiency Dungeon Leechtanking

11:32 pm, February 26, 2016 Brutally Efficient Dungeon Leechtank I've been running a lot of non-aegis nightmare randomizer lately. This allowed me to perfect my leechtanking and transform it into a kind of semi-bufftank. In my e [..] View

Is this good enough for beginner tanking

11:32 pm, February 15, 2016 I have almost no experience with tanking and I need help to point out the biggest flaws in this build. Hammer, blue QL10. 397 weapon power, +44 Crt Power, +109 Pen. Elementalism, blue QL5, 215 weapon [..] View

Need help with my NM scenario build

11:32 pm, February 14, 2016 Hey all, First, here's my build: Blade / Chaos Actives: Escalation Karma Clearing the Path Martial Discipline Domino Effect Smoke and Mirrors Surging Blades Passives: Bloodsport Leeching [..] View

Surpising lack of Evade Tanks online [Chaos/Shotgun]

12:32 pm, February 3, 2016 So yeah, I'm kind of surprised at the lack of Evade Tank builds online. I wanted to toss one together, get some feedback, tweak, and improve it. I wanted to do an evade tank because block has so much [..] View

List of All New Signets in 1.13.2

12:32 pm, February 3, 2016 I think this is all of them. Let me know if anything is incorrect or missing.Weapon/Head Signets Signet of Blessed Steps Effect: Whenever you apply a barrier effect to an ally, that ally gains a be [..] View

Defense or Protection for Tanking NM Ankh?

12:32 pm, January 28, 2016 So, if I'm putting together a gear set for tanking NM Ankh, which might be better to replace my talismans with block on them: those with defense or ones with physical protection? I usually hear that d [..] View

Equal Footing needs some adjustments

11:32 pm, November 28, 2015 Having high-quality gear should provide either no advantage or a small advantage over less-geared players. There's a fair amount of discussion on these forums about what the magnitude of this advanta [..] View

min. stat requirements for ED

11:32 pm, November 14, 2015 Hi there. I know you will tell me "that depends". But in order to be a minimum effective, and considering EFB, as a tank, as a healer and as a dps, how much minimum pen / crit / crit power [..] View

purple gear set up

12:32 pm, November 8, 2015 hi alittle **** on what to do next im working on purple gear i see these 3 types to get health, attack and heal peaces i got so far are my 2 weps blade and chaos with penerration glyph head .. he [..] View

Just for healers by healer.

12:32 pm, November 3, 2015 Hey, I just want advices from healers, so please if you don't know a thing about healing a raid go away. So before i12 healing survivability was ok, all stats were pretty good with some training. A [..] View

Woodcutter Builds

11:32 pm, October 29, 2015 Hey people just thought the new Woodcutter's Talismans were a pretty cool addition to the game and I love additional effects that add to build diversity. I haven't seen this really talked about yet so [..] View

Crit Build

1:32 pm, October 20, 2015 Any thoughts on creating a crit-centric build around the woodcutter's talisman? I mean, we already run with 400 crit power on builder weapon attacks, so if we can tune penetration to an amount where [..] View

One gear to tank them all

1:32 pm, October 19, 2015 I'm wondering since a few days: is there a way to make a tanking gear that works in ALL dungeons without requiering an amazing team nor doing any taliman switch? The basic stat split of 650 block, 650 [..] View

What is the highest defensive stat requierment for a tank?

1:32 pm, October 8, 2015 I'm still puzzled about something, after many many many talk on the topic: actualy, how much the game can push you to take defense stats to finish all the dungeon/raid content? From what I heard: - [..] View

[Theorycrafting] The sturdiest tank possible in TSW

1:32 pm, October 6, 2015 In this thread, some people said interesting things on the topic of the most sturdiest tank possible in TSW, a topic that interest me a lot. Since however this was not the main topic of this thread, [..] View

PvP is not fun.

1:32 pm, October 1, 2015 Here are my top 5 reasons why: 5. Matchmaking - Why are battle rank 150+ people playing against battle rank 0? 4. Equal Footing - Most of my gear is between 10.4 and 10.7. I made some special healt [..] View

Getting the most ouf of Equal Footing - Gearing for PvP

12:32 am, September 29, 2015 What the hell is equal footing and why should you care about it? The equal footing buff (EFB in short) is a buff that is applied to you whenever joining a PvP minigame. Its purpose is to raise your s [..] View

[Scenarii] "The Lost Tank" (beginnner scenarii build for tanks)

12:32 am, September 29, 2015 I was speaking with a fellow beginner a few days ago, that explained me that he had hard time to deal with daily scenarii because he was still investing to complete his dungeon tanking gear, and thus, [..] View

[Fuse-tank] Guide about high efficiency tanking

12:32 am, September 15, 2015 The fuse-tank Mysteries about high efficiency – unveiled! Hey guys, ever wondered why there are tanks with an elemental focus in their off-hand? Ever wondered why there are groups able to ** [..] View

Leechtanking NM Scenarios

1:32 pm, September 13, 2015 Sorry, the topic is kinda "misleading" - of course it's for Group Nightmare Scenarios! So: Here comes another deck. I actually developed this deck before I made the Stunner Build to farm Gro [..] View

Faster leveling for new characters

1:32 pm, September 12, 2015 While not an expert by any means, I have been thinking for quite a while about how to level a character fast, or at least easier. Some of these suggestions will need a friend to work with, maybe two [..] View

PvP Healer question(s)

12:32 am, September 11, 2015 I've been attempting to heal in PvP and I'm trying to figure out if there is a one build good for ED, SH and Fusang, or do I need to consider different ones for the different maps/instances? On on [..] View

Seeking opinion: Blade/Blood self-healing tank

12:32 am, September 10, 2015 This is the concept I've started working towards for my first build. Since I'm new to the game, I'd like opinions from people who have more familiarity with the mechanics of the game. Actives: Blade [..] View

Auto-penetration & dual-defense tank (take 2)

1:32 pm, September 8, 2015 This is not the first time I talk about this idea of a tank build which doesn't use penetration rating on its gear. At that time, I had few experience, and also, the talk on the topic soon have been [..] View

Defensives stats in NM scenarios?

1:32 pm, September 4, 2015 I was speaking with some people yesterday evening about NM scenarios, and a particular build that used blade, art of war, martial discipline and clearing the path... and I was suprised that the build [..] View

The 4th Suit

12:32 am, September 3, 2015 Before I12, the tank uniform was great for tanking(obviously), but was also good for healing and dps. Now with the new uniforms, using a dps or tank uniform and healing is quite detrimental. (Every ve [..] View

asking advice on fine-tuning builds for pvp & scanerios

1:32 pm, August 30, 2015 hi all wanted to ask advice for my new pvp & scenarios builds - first of all the talismans i intend to keep for both builds: coney island band, egon pendant, brooklyn bracer, subway tokens, he [..] View

Bldyknuckle's CritHammer Basic Tanking build

12:32 am, August 24, 2015 Check out my Destiny Fulfilled DPS build here: https://forums.thesecretworld.com/sh...-DPS-Blade-Ele.Need Build Now!!!http://www.tsw-builder.com/#25v21155...16232421612a05Intro: This is designed to be [..] View

Dat nerf doe

12:32 am, August 21, 2015 Rip in peace Exquisite Corpse You will be missed ( I made a really awesome JPG of a tombstone with EC on it, but cbf uploading it so instead you get this message) (I wish i had more time to write t [..] View

Need some advanced mechanics help

12:32 am, August 19, 2015 Was wondering if more experienced players could help me out with a few tricky mechanics questions. 1. Does Steel Echo's 2nd hit proc 2 cuts? 2. How much does a penetrating hit increase my damage by, r [..] View

Recommended 10.5 glyph setup for soloing group elite scenarios?

12:32 am, August 15, 2015 As one of the six or so people who'll still run scenarios after Issue 12 hits, I'm curious to know what the suggested glyph setup for full 10.5 glyphs is. Working on the basis that I already have a 10 [..] View

Savage Coast Chaos build

1:32 pm, August 10, 2015 I'm probably about halfway through Savage Coast and I've been using the same build since Kingsmouth. I use Fist/Chaos, but I've also completed the inner wheel of Shotgun. I am playing 100% solo and ha [..] View

Event Tank build help

12:32 am, July 16, 2015 So I tried to help out in the last event by running my main (Toad) as a Tank and trying to save the endangered squishies. I have no other tanking experience and so I threw the following build togethe [..] View

Guide for Non-Healers in Fusang

1:32 pm, July 2, 2015 Finally! It is done! I managed to build my first QL10.4 talisman set. To celebrate this event I give you myGuide for Non-Healers in Fusang If you ever wanted to know how to play with a healer in Fusa [..] View

Looking for a capable Hammer/Blood Build and I'm kinda stuck right now.

1:32 pm, June 29, 2015 As of now I'm working on a build I'd like to call the Bleeding Turtle. Of course problem is I'd like to increase my DPS as much as I can, mainly through blood magic while keeping my block capabilities [..] View

Auto-penetration tank?

1:32 pm, June 18, 2015 I was wondering if it was possible to make a tank build for NM dongeons, that would rely on auto-penetration procs instead of increase of penetration chances. Penetration rating on a tank is used for [..] View

What causes glancing (and other defense questions)

1:32 pm, June 14, 2015 I've heard about the "evils" of "glancetanks" in PvP. Even looked at a couple of build examples. But it still seems unclear to me as to what causes a "glance". It looks t [..] View

Buff silver streak?

1:32 pm, June 7, 2015 at the moment silver streak is severely underpowered compared to the simalar hammer ability unstoppable force. both give hinder and impair immunity for 8 seconds however silver streak falls short on [..] View

Tanking questions

1:32 pm, May 13, 2015 Disclaimer, my current tanking gearset has been built following the guidelines in Ciritty's Pink tanking thread, and I like her recommendations for tanking passives, and the only passive that will lik [..] View

Advice needed on my build(s)

12:32 am, May 7, 2015 Hello everyone! I'm kinda new to this game, but I'm getting more and more into it every day. After the first week, I'm confident to have figured out how things work and I started thinking about buil [..] View

Nightmare Scenarios - What am I doing wrong?

1:32 pm, April 25, 2015 I've been trying to work on higher-level scenarios recently and been having problems. I can sometimes do a nightmare solo but I struggle at portions, and elite solo is too easy. With my partner, we ma [..] View

Does this mean I'm doing it right?

1:32 pm, April 9, 2015 Hi all Some of you may remember that I said last year that I couldn't see myself ever doing PvP. I'm just not wired that way. Some of you will have noticed that I've ended up in Fusang recently too. D [..] View

Chaos/Shotgun Tanking?

11:32 pm, March 18, 2015 Hey everybody. So, real quick background: I've been playing TSW sporadically since launch. For the most part, I've done endgame gear-grinding very slowly, but have been considering delving back into t [..] View

[Hammer/Blade] Tank Build critique

11:32 pm, February 18, 2015 Looking at putting together my first real tank outside of KM, this is what I'm looking at:ACTIVE: Grand Slam – Single Target RP builder, aggro enhancer Blade Torrent – Multi Targe [..] View

Gearing Up

12:32 pm, February 14, 2015 I wrote this awhile back. Its mainly just Ciritty, Claretta and Katarina's info just put together, so absolute credit to them. I think starting off it's a good path to get you at a decent level for ev [..] View

Hammer-based solo builds?

12:32 pm, February 14, 2015 Hi everyone, Returning player from a long absence here. Figured I'd start fresh on a new toon, with a little bit of RP -- my character is very Hammer-centric. Are there any decently survivable solo [..] View

Sunday 02/22/15 El Dorado Premade Event

11:32 pm, February 11, 2015 Heya folks! So here's the deal. Speaking on behalf of myself and many others that I have consulted with full premade matches are some of the most competitive and thrilling matches there have been. So [..] View

[Blade/Chaos] Tank prototype, I **** at building

12:32 pm, February 11, 2015 Hello, Thus far I haven't found a build I like, and many of the suggested builds are like 2 years old. So now I'm trying my hand at it. My goal is to afflict, penetrate, and debilitate enemies whil [..] View

[Library] PvP Builds

12:32 pm, February 2, 2015 I decided to make a new consolidated thread of PvP builds because the old one is not frequently updated. I will leave it here for now, as I feel more people who can benefit from these builds will be i [..] View

PVP El Dorado Tank Build

11:32 pm, December 25, 2014 The following build is exactly what I use when I tank/carry in ED. Not only is it incredibly mitigated but when focused, which you will be if carrying, I do lots of reflect damage. Can get upwards of [..] View

Combat Mechanics, an updated explanation please.

12:32 pm, December 8, 2014 I tried to figure out the combat's mechanics up to today but I just found the Yokai's Guide (http://yokaiblog.wikidot.com/guides%3atswfaq#toc4) which is outdated. Can you help me to understand the g [..] View

Build critique

12:32 pm, December 2, 2014 Moving from General thread: Quote: Originally Posted by Crynthar (Post 1815521) You are welcome to give it a try. There is a fairly wide gear disparity though. Chronic [..] View

Are we all still using the same builds?

11:32 pm, November 17, 2014 EDIT: Sorry, should have just asked: "Has anything about the game mechanics/abilities changed since April to the point where I will have to significantly rebuild my decks and glyphing?" /E [..] View

Yet Another Scenario Build

11:32 pm, November 15, 2014 I recently overhauled my solo-group-elite scenario build after finally getting a breaching for my blade - had a few people test this last night and really enjoy it, so I thought I'd share.Background [..] View

Mid game solo build help? QL 5-8

11:32 pm, November 13, 2014 Hey everyone So I've been playing this game for about a week and I was doing fairly well in Kingsmouth but when I moved to next location and then eventually to Blue Mountains I ran into more and more [..] View

A little help to start Elite Dungeons

12:32 pm, November 11, 2014 Hello! I recently started playing TSW (2-3 weeks ago) as a Tank primarily with 3-4 friends. To learn the game I'm pretty much relying on trial and error as well as what I can read on the interwebs :P [..] View

Glance vs Block ?

12:32 am, October 24, 2014 Hello. I understand of them how to work. but i confusing what is better one? It has both pros and cons. Can you guys just vote which one is more better defence stat in PvE and PvP? answer plz, Th [..] View

We are still here, and we are still starving! PvP suggestions, of patch 1.9

12:32 am, October 21, 2014 Hello there! So the new meta has been settled and i think we can safly comment now on some new and old problems PvP has * PvP community, its size,events We had amazing event some time ago(thanks ag [..] View

Extra-Life 2014!

12:32 am, October 17, 2014 Hi everyone! Once again, it's time for the Extra Life event! Funcom is back and ready to play this year, and I hope you are too! Just like last year, we are excited to welcome returning and new p [..] View

Assistance continuing hammer build

1:32 pm, October 15, 2014 Hello all, I started playing TSW last week and I am quite enjoying it so far. I started off with an assault rifle/blades build early on. I then switched over to a hammer/blades build from tswdb.com ( [..] View

Hitting the Wall

1:32 pm, October 15, 2014 I've been playing TSW very slowly since its release. So slowly that I only hit Transylvania for the first time this last weekend. It's felt like hitting a wall, where almost every mob is a struggle an [..] View

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Glance vs Block ?

Dec 6, 2014, 8:59 pm Hello. I understand of them how to work. but i confusing what is better one? It has both pros and cons. Can you guys just vote which one is more better defence stat in PvE and PvP? answer plz, Th[..] View

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